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Old 05-02-2011, 11:24 AM
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Does anyone else feel like this card draws out games? Ive noticed that the only games I ever see go to extra turns are the ones where Top is being played. I know it was banned for this reason in extended. Thoughts?
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Seems like that would kill one of the most popular decks, CounterTop, and not for being overpowered
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Old 05-02-2011, 11:59 AM
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players just need to be vigilant about the amount of time people are taking. key note to this point.

just because your deck has more decisions and is really complicated does not mean you get to take more time because of it.

you need to play a reasonable pace such that three games could be finished. tell them to hurry up. if you feel they are taking to long call a judge.
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Seems like that would kill one of the most popular decks, CounterTop, and not for being overpowered
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players just need to be vigilant about the amount of time people are taking. key note to this point.

just because your deck has more decisions and is really complicated does not mean you get to take more time because of it.

you need to play a reasonable pace such that three games could be finished. tell them to hurry up. if you feel they are taking to long call a judge.
The quote that literally made me laugh out loud at First Pick yesterday was the guy playing combo Elves, trying to rush game 2, and then yelling "I CAN NEVER LOSE THIS IF I HAD INFINITE TIME" over and over again. While his buddy sitting next to him simply said "Well, there is a round timer for a reason."

I don't mind people playing diligently, slow playing is dumb but in that situation you call a judge over. Saying ban top is like saying ban counter spells because they delay games. Me coming to the defense of top should be saying a lot too, for some reason I play Zoo.
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SDTop belongs in the JudgeCall.deck for sure.

Let's start the list

4 Illusionary Mask
4 Humility
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Old 05-02-2011, 03:08 PM
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I've seen ppl tank on Jace for like 3 mins in standard.... Then again, I saw Keith Thompson tank for 3 mins with a land and a mana leak in his hand during his turn.

Bonus EDH cards that take forever:
Thieves Auction, Grip of Chaos, anything repeatable.

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SDTop belongs in the JudgeCall.deck for sure.

Let's start the list

4 Illusionary Mask
4 Humility
4 Sensei's Divining Top
Now this is my kind of list!
Humility/Opalescence
Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth/Blood Moon
Chains of Mephistofeles
Word of Command
Lord of Tresserhorn.EDH.deck

New and "improved" Lord of Tresserhorn now includes Chains and Word. Good luck.

Also... pointed more Krosan Grips at SDTops in EDH games than any other individual card. Hate it, it's so boring... I like to make people feel miserable from frustration rather than boredom in EDH games.
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I've seen ppl tank on Jace for like 3 mins in standard.... Then again, I saw Keith Thompson tank for 3 mins with a land and a mana leak in his hand during his turn.

Bonus EDH cards that take forever:
Thieves Auction, Grip of Chaos, anything repeatable.
Isnt that guy a judge? he should know better.
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The quote that literally made me laugh out loud at First Pick yesterday was the guy playing combo Elves, trying to rush game 2, and then yelling "I CAN NEVER LOSE THIS IF I HAD INFINITE TIME" over and over again. While his buddy sitting next to him simply said "Well, there is a round timer for a reason."

I don't mind people playing diligently, slow playing is dumb but in that situation you call a judge over. Saying ban top is like saying ban counter spells because they delay games. Me coming to the defense of top should be saying a lot too, for some reason I play Zoo.
That game was really funny... Martin (the Elves player) was going as fast as he could, but would still need like an hour to win that game. He also needs to never screw up the "combo" and force himself to draw too many cards.
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